The AAE Podcast: Episode 3 with Michael Visser and André Geilenkothen on Pension Tracking Services

Welcome to the third episode of the AAE Podcast!

In 2025, the Pension Tracking Services working group of the AAE has conducted research on the possibilities of linking information from national pension tracking systems, following a request from the European Tracking Service organisation. On 17 December 2025, a discussion paper was published on this topic (AAE Discussion Paper “Towards a European Pension Tracking Service – Key Considerations and Findings” - Actuarial Association of Europe). This podcast is about the work of the working group and the main actuarial findings from this discussion paper.

About our guests:

Michael Visser is a pension expert in the Netherlands, in this podcast representing Stichting Pensioenregister, the Dutch national pension tracking organisation. He contributed to the AAE podcast on the newly published AAE discussion paper prepared for the European Tracking Service (ETS), of which Stichting Pensioenregister is one of the member organisations. In the podcast, he shares practical experience from the Dutch pension tracking service and explains how this national expertise feeds into the broader ETS. He outlines the ETS step-by-step approach and rollout strategy, aimed at gradually connecting as many national Pension Tracking Systems as possible. While Belgium and France are already connected, the Netherlands is preparing its connection, with Germany, Croatia, and Poland also taking concrete steps, and further countries expected to follow over time.